Emails from Ed Moore & Mr. KrantzPage 1 of 3
~~ Teal, Melissa
From: emoore17@bellsouth.net
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:13 PM
To: Knight, Jimmy
Cc: daubrey@worldnet.att.net; dbn@fcohenlaw.com; dcaubrey@yahoo.com; edeissey@aol.com; T.R. Hernacki; Teal,
Melissa; bmanuel112@aol.com
Subject: Re: Special use in CC Transitional Zoning District-used car lot
Thank you for your response. I hope we have similar desires for the well being of the Village. I am not sure what the
zoning was on the West side of Alt AlA prior to annexation, as there were already dealerships there, but I do know
the house, where Silvester is was in fact zoned residential as was the vacant lot on the SW corner of Honey. The big
issue on the east side of Alt AlA was that the county was allowing "special use exemptions" the Donnini building
was such a special exception as was, I believe, the Adam Walsh Building. The CC Transitional District was created to
clearify the gray area and the concerns of property owners on ALT AlA when it was four laned devaluing the
resident land use zoning that abutted Alt AlA. At the same time, while allowing the CC Transitional District
to protected the existing residential neighborhood from commercial encroachment. Remember Jimmy, I have lived
there for almost thirty years and know the neighborhood history.
While I see the Mercede's Dealership as an asset to the Village moving such an activity, even on a lower scale, into
the CC Transitional District I feel is detrimental to the residential community. By the way I checked and Lake Park
Auto Brokers is also operating as a "broker". I am in no way saying Donnini will fall to that level but it does open a
door.
I wild try to be there tonight but my professsional duties may not permit it as I am taking on aditional university
responsiblities. In any event I will be watching the "process".
Beat Regards
Dr. Ed "Stitch" Mooce
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emoore 17C~bellsouth. net
"There is a difference between interest and commitment. When you are interested in doing something, you do it when
circumstances permit. When you are committed, you accept no excuses, only results."
-------------- Original message from "Knight, Jimmy" <jknight@village-npb.org>:
Ed,
I don't think we are so dissimilar on our desires for the Village and you do raise some very valid concerns.
Although the annexation predates me, I do believe you to be correct as to your interpretation as to the original
intent relating to the CC Transitional Zoning. In researching this issue further I see where this area, prior to the
annexation, was actually zone "Commercial High Uses" or CG which would have allowed significantly more
impacting usages... As you so eloquently pointed out concerning my memorandum to Council, I was deliberate
in by words not to assert [on behalf of the Village] the similar use but rather report the applicants position as it
relates to this application. I do believe however, that there is some merit in their argument but as you are
aware I don't have a vote in this action. This is perfunctory in nature and the applicant has a right to make
application. The Village equally has a d~ to hear their request.
~ls always I encourage you and others to come to the Council meetings and express your points of view, even
if they are contrary to that of others. The "process" is just that, this is what makes democratic societies
function...
1 /22/2009
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as an aside, I do believe that this item will be removed from the regular agenda and placed under Workshop to
give everyone an opportunity to weigh in. I am confident that the good of the Village and especially those
residents potentially impacted will be provided for. I look forward to seeing you this evening...
Jimmy
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Moore [mailto:emoorel7@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:13 AM
To: Teal, Melissa
Subject: Special use in CC Transitional Zoning District-used car lot
I am writing this email to make it known that I am opposed to the proposal before the Council
allowing a used care lot on the corner of Alt. A 1 A. In spite of the slanderous and libelous personal
attack made against made by a councilman I have lived in this neighborhood since 1980 and was the
primary force behind our annexation. I was also involved in the rezoning and creation of the
"transitional zoning district". The transitional zoning district was created as a buffer between the
heavy commercial land use on the west side of Alt AlA and the residential community on the east
side. The vision of the residents and the council was to have neighborhood related and residentially
friendly businesses on that strip. The district was specially created and unique to the Alt AlA corridor.
To add more intensive commercial usage would go against the wishes of the vast majority of the
residents who voted for annexation as well as the intent and tone of the future land use in the
neighborhood.
Now it appears you have before you a proposal fora "limited" car brokerage that will only consist of
an office operation. That would be fine if that was what it was. The real operation becomes quite
startling when one looks at the site plans and description in the application. What is seen is space for
inventory storage and display of inventory and customer parking. It is further made evident that this is
a car lot by the description of a customer viewing area. In addition if this was to be high end auto
brokerage what is the need for a large monument sign facing Alt AlA advertising car sales? Now
gentlemen I think we all know that a high end broker would have no onsite viewing or delivery.
Vehicles would be located, appraised, and delivered directly to a client's location. Finally the vendor
license is listed as "independent auto dealer". The memo to Council from the manager uses terms like:
"limited auto sales, display of vehicles, reportedly operates, believed that... such terms do not sound
to well thought out, convincing, or specific to me. I think we can all agree that if it walks like a duck
and quacks like a duck it is a duck not a teddy bear.
There are some specific issues that you as a council must address:
1. A commitment to the intent of the "transitional zoning district"
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2. The avoidance and appearance of spot zoning
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3. Additional commercial encroachment of a residential area by increasingly heavy commercial usage.
4. Outdoor storage of inventory. This is a key point as there is no other section, or zoning district, in the
village except for the west side of Alt A1A that allows outdoor storage of inventory. I believe such an
activity will require a major zoning change for allowable usage. Since the "transitional zoning district" is
the most restricted zoning classification in the Village one would be hard pressed to justify such a
change.
5. The verbiage by the manager and staff refers to the Village monitoring the applicant's compliance.
Please tell me how that will be done? A simple ride through the Village, especially after five PM or on
weekends, will demonstrate how well that is working out.
I truly hope you will manage to do what is right for the neighborhood and follow through with the
commitments made to the residents who felt comfortable with the protection that the felt the Village
and council, at that time, could provide.
Cc: Village Council; Village Manager; Community Development
Dr. Ed "Stitch" MOOT!
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emoore17Cc~bellsouth.net
"There is a difference between interest and commitment. When you are interested in doing something, you do it
when circumstances permit. When you are committed, you accept no excuses, only results."
1 /22/2009
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Teal, Melissa
From: Knight, Jimmy
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:34 PM
To: 'fjkrantz@comcast.net'
Cc: Darryl Aubrey (daubrey@worldnet.att.net); David Norris (dbn@fcohenlaw.com); 'dcaubrey@yahoo.com ;Edward
Eissey (edeissey@aol.co.m); T.R. Hernacki; Teal, Melissa; William Manuel (bmanuel112@aol.com)
Subject: FW: Issuance of Special Permit for Donnini Motor Cars 'Limited Auto Sales'
Mr. Krantz,
I appreciate opposing points of view and want to ensure you that all sides of this issue will be discussed at length prior to any
vote by Council. As a point of discussion or clarification, the application for a Special Use Permit is perfunctory in nature and as
such is received, processed, and placed before Council for their final consideration. A point worthy of mentioning as it relates to
this specific business request is that Council, should they elect to grant the special use permit retains jurisdiction over all
conditions enumerated in the Permit Order. This is significant in that this business will receive greater oversight with increased
regulations that can be administratively revoked for any violation of that agreement. Your normal businesses which are allowed
to operate based solely upon designated use districts have far less oversights and control. I believe that your concerns as it
relates to '°test-driving" in your community can be successfully addressed.
I will share both your views and my response with Village Council but do invite you to come to the Council meeting on January
22nd and make your views known. Again thank you for your thoughts and concems, I look forward to meeting you personally.
Jimmy Knight, Village Manager
-----Original Message-----
From: Frederick krantz (mailto:fjkrantz@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:36 PM
To: Teal, Melissa
Subject: Issuance of Special Permit for Donnini Motor Cars `Limited Auto Sales'
Attn: Jimmy Knight, Village Manager
Cc: Village Council
If automobile sales are a prohibited use within the CC-Transitional Commercial District located at 9250 Alternate A1A,
North Palm Beach, why should Gerald J. Donnini be granted a special permit for 'Limited Auto Sales'? It sounds like
`mutton dressed a Iamb' and should not be allowed. Please vote against this measure. We on Conroy Drive and the
surrounding area wish to maintain the pleasant and safe non-commercial atmosphere on our roads. Test-driving used
cars on our roads is not acceptable.
Frederick J. Krantz
2630 Conroy Drive
North Palm Beach, FL
fjkrantz@comcast. net
1 /20/2009
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Teal, Melissa
From: Teal, Melissa
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:12 AM
To: Ed Eissey; Bill Manuel; David Norris; T.R. Hernacki; Darryl Aubrey
Subject: FW: Issuance of Special Permit for Donnini Motor Cars 'Limited Auto Sales'
Please see below message regarding 1/22/09 agenda item.
McCissa 7eaC
Village Clerk
Village of North Palm Beach
501 U.S. Highway 1, North Palm Beach FL 33408
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frederick krantz [mailto:fjkrantz@comcast,net]
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:36 PM
To: Teal, Melissa
Subject: Issuance of Special Permit for Donnini Motor Cars 'Limited Auto Safes'
Attn: Jimmy Knight, Village Manager
Cc: Village Council
If automobile sales are a prohibited use within the CC-Transitional Commercial District located at 9250 Alternate Al A,
North Palm Beach, why should Gerald J. Donnini be granted a special permit for `Limited Auto Sales'? It sounds like
'mutton dressed a Iamb' and should not be allowed. Please vote against this measure. We on Conroy Drive and the
surrounding area wish to maintain the pleasant and safe non-commercial atmosphere on our roads. Test-driving used
cars on our roads is not acceptable.
Frederick J. Krantz
2630 Conroy Drive
North Palm Beach, FL
fjkrantz@comcast.net
1/20/2009