11-08-1982 VC SP2-M MINUTES OF SPECIAL SESSION
OF THE
VILLAGE COUNCIL OF NORTH PALM BEACH, FLORIDA
HELD
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1982
RECONVENED
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 1982
Present: Al Moore, Mayor
W. H. Brawn, Vice Mayor
Harriet Nolan., President Pro Tem
V. A. Marks, M. D., Councilman
Tom Valente, Councilman
Raymond J. Howland, Village Manager
Charles R. 0`Meili.a, Director of Public Services
Wa11y E. Schott, Deputy Director of Public
Services
Herbert L. Gildan, Village Attorney
Dolores R. WaIkex, Village Clerk
Steve Yeckes, Yeckes & Lvchner Architects
Phil Luciuzer, Yeckes & Lochner Architects
Ken Scherer, Attorney for Yeckes & Lochner
Architects
Mayor Moore reconvened the recessed Special Session of Thursday, ROLL CALL
Nw~ber 4, 19$2 at 8:02 p.m. A11 members of the Council and
the staff were present.
Mayor Moore informed the CoLmcil that there was one thing we MAIN MOTION
failed to do at the Special Session of Thursday, November 4, PASSED 3-1
1982. We had an amended motion on the floor which we voted on,
but we failed to vote on the main motion, which was the motion-
by President Pro T~ Nolan that we resolve the interior finish
at the Delacorte Building. The motion was seconded by Vice Mayor _
Brown. Thereafter Council voted an the main m~tian which passed
3-1, with Vice Mayor Brown opposed.
The Mayor stated that at the recessed Special Session of Thursday, MOTION TO RESOLVE
NovEmbex 4, 1982, we had a motion on the floor mode by Vice Mayor STAGE LIGH.CING
Brown, seconded by President Pro T~1 Nolan to resolve the stave AT DELACORTE BLDG..
lighting at the Delacorte C~mnmity Center.
We also had an amendment to the motion by Covnc~lma„ Marks and AMENDNffiVT TO
seconded by President Pro Tem Nolan that we go with Alternate MOTION NOT
B as previously in the bid, and that the responsibility for VOTED ON
hooking these (lights) up is not the Village`s -- it belongs
to the Architect or whoever it falls ari. This motion was not
voted on.
Thereafter Vice Mayor Brawn stated that he felt the Covnc3l MOTIGN TO AMQ~lD
should not proceed with the motion on the floor tmtil the THE Ar1T
Village Attorney could advise us, and moved to amend the PASSID UNANIMOUS-
amendment as follows: that we recess on this motion until LY
Monday, Novanber 8, 1982, at approximately 8:00 p.m. The
motion was seconded by President Pro T~ Nolan and all present
voted aye.
The Mayor then stated that we are back at what we recessed for; REASON FOR RECESS
namely, to have the Village Attorney look into the matter and ,
advise vs.
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Reconvened Monday, November 8, 1982
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The Village Attorney stated that .the conclusion, at least we ~irrTar.F: ATTORNEY'S
reached on a staff level, is that the rudimentary power to the (:OMN~TTS
lights, $2,000.00 addition, should be installed in order to
make everything working there; that to the extent that the
Village has been damaged to whatever-the dollars are because of
the failure to include them the first time, and the rest of the
cost we are put to, that we should expect to be reimbursed for
that by the architects, Lmderstanding that the architects may have
claims against other people since there was some suggest%an that
they have been led to believe Fran either their engineers or
suppliers that the Lights would be a package that would include -
everythvag, but that would not be our concern.
Mr. Gildan stated that he has a statanent from Mr. O'Meilia that
says that he discussed the matter with Messrs. Yeclces and Lochner.
He says although they admit that they or their engineers have a -
designed deficiency in the plans and the specifications regarding
13~e power, they will not agree to pay anything for a solution to
the problen and that, I guess, is where we sit at the u~e~zt.
At this point Vice Mayor Brown asked what the action on the floor MOTION ON THE
was. The Mayor informed him that Cotmcilman Marks moved to- amend FIAOR
the motion, and that was to resolve the stage lighting, as follows:
that we go with Alternate B as previously in the bid, anal that the --
responsibility far hooking these (lights) up is not the Village`s --
it belongs to the architect or whoever it falls. on. The untion
was seconded by President Pro Tem Nolan. That is an amendment
to the original utotion.
Mr. Ken Scherer, the attorney representing Yeckes and Lochner, DISCUSSION BE-
spoke on behalf of his clients, and a lengthy discussion between TWEE[Q MR. SC~IEREL2,
Mr. Yeckes, Mr. Scherer and the Village Council ensued. During MR. YECKES &
the discussion. Mr. Yeckes stated the following: I am admitting VTTTA(:F: COUNCIL
to the Council that I made an error, that I am a human being,
but for that error I am saying to you I don't believe that I
should buy you an additional lighting system. I am admitting
to you that I made a human error, but I feel that we are getting
a lot ire discredit than credit.
Mr. Gildan stated that T guess we Tiave various questions and maybe VILTAGE ATTORNEY'S
they are getting mixed up and maybe we'can put them in order. C~ffi~TTS
Question one was the lighting and the cost to hook up the lighting.
I think there was an error oxi that part, and I think the Village
may or may not have been damaged by that error. If, in fact,
because it is learned at this stage and was not at the other.
stage, and if it will cost us more then I think the responsibility
rests with the architect, and I think that is all by itself.
The second point I think has been made is what is the responsibility
of the architect overall on this job, if ti,; as go wrong, and I _
absolutely agree with the architects and their lawyer that they
are not the contractor. The responsibility to build this in
accordance with plans and specifications rests .with the contractor,
and if it is not built in accordance with the plans and specifications,
the liability to replace it for the damages goes back against the
contractor. But there is general supervisory responsibility and
apparently the architects have done even more than they should.
I think there is one pLsce where-they are responsible and that in
if they know that there is not a-compliance with plans and specifi-
cations, then on any payments we make, we should be advised not to
make the payment, or to hold it back, and that will protect the
Village, because i£ there are damages we ought not to pay for it.
I hope and assume that the architects have advised vs not to make
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the payments if they are not correct; that is their responsibility
and it is no more and no less, and I ain not aware of anything that
so far -says they have not met tY~at responsibility even though the
building was not built by the contractor as they designed it. I
don't know that this is a black mark against then in any way. Those
are the two issues that are vp before us.
Mr. Gi1dan stated that no way, as far as he could see, has there been
any negative reflection upon the Building Department of t2~e Village
of North Palm Beach, and Iet there be no thought that there is not
one word I have said to suggest-that Tda11y Schott or Charley O'Meilia
hasn't done their job.
Thereafter Councilman Marks withdrew his amendment; and President Pro COUNCl'LMAN MARKS
Tem Nolan withdrew her second that we go with Alternate B as previ_ovsly WITFIDREW HIS
in the bid and that the responsibility for hooking these (lights) up AMEt~MIIV'P &
is not the Village's -- it belongs to the architect or whoever it PRES. PRO TIIK
fa11s on. The Cotmcil concurred with this. NOLAN WTiIIDREW
I13ERR SECOND
Councilmzrn Marks then made tl~e following motion: that we authorize BUILDING DEPT.
the Building Department to determine what it will cost to electrify TO n~'~T~'
Alternate B presently and to determine what it would have cost to COSTS TO ELECTRIFY
electrify Alternate B had a bid been made at the time that-the ALTERNATE B &
original bids were sutxnitted to the Village, and that these bids REPORT BACK TO
be brought back to the Village Council in order that they will grrrar_F COUNCIL
accept what it wi11 cost to ca~lete it now, and if the Village
has been damaged by the delay that we seek reimbursement for these
damages. The motion was seconded by President Pro T~ Nolan and
all present voted aye.
' There being no further business to cane before the Council, the RECESS
meeting was recessed at 9:20 p.m. until Tuesday, November 9, 1982
at 7:30 p.m.
Minutes recorded by: Dolores R. Walker, CMC
Village Clerk